From: rps@morgana.mat.uc.pt (Rui Pedro Mendes Salgueiro) Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport.f1 Subject: The tifosi are not bitter Date: 27 Oct 1997 11:19:21 -0000 Organization: Universidade de Coimbra Lines: 71 Message-ID: <631tbp$se0@morgana.mat.uc.pt> Reply-To: rps@mat.uc.pt NNTP-Posting-Host: morgana.mat.uc.pt X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] From the comments of some people here, others might get the impression that the tifosi are trying to find excuses for Schumacher, or are even blaming Jacques. That is not true. Both me and Thomas were watching the race in Rai Due (among other channels). So, some of the comments based on that: I wrote: Interestingly one of the commentators in the Rai studio said something like "Schumacher's behaviour was inappropriate for a Ferrari driver." Apparentely not all tifosi wanted a victory at all costs. Thomas added: That is true, I heard that all over the place here. They wanted him desperatley to win but not that way. The dissapointment of the day is now the person Schumacher, not that he lost it. I also wrote: The incident was analysed to death during the post-race commentary, and the general opinion was that Schumacher turned to Jacques, not to the apex (this is a direct translation from Giovanna Amati). But Eddie Cheever seemed to disagree. Later I asked: BTW, I didn't quite understood when they said that the people watching in a giant screen the race in Maranello had aplaudded. Were they applauding Jacques victory ? Far from impossible considering Schumacher's ethics and Gilles reputation, who is very far from forgotten. And Thomas replied: Yes, they applauded Jacques in Maranello. It seems that millions of italian tifosis understands a little more of racing than the single one from Scarsdale. Being a Villeneuve certainly helped, and one of my local tifosis told me that Schumaker showed today, that he's german after all. Well, but that's normal, after his next victory it's all forgotten and they will cheer for him again. "T.Gergo" added: Niki Lauda is permanent commentator of F1 on German RTL television. In his immediate comments right after the race ended, he said that after their second pit stops, Michael obviously slowed down, and that he must have been surprised that Jacques attempted to pass him at the first possible moment. Niki Lauda called Villeneuve's move "cold blooded", but approoved of it. Anyone who saw the interview could easily tell that Lauda was very dissapointed with Schumacher's deliberate attempt to knock his opponent out. To which Thomas replied: I just saw "Domenica sport" on Rai Tre. In a nice contrast to Niki Laudas stupid comments on german RTL his former teammate at Ferrari, Clay Regazzoni called it an "absurd manoeuver from Schumacher". And unlike some of of the rasf1-comments even Luca di Montezemolo called it Schumacher's error. He also mentioned that he talked to Todt who told him the tyres where loosing grip. It's obvious to me, that once Jacques would be ahead of Schumacher he'll never ever had a chance to take the lead back. And I am sure, Schumi knew that as well... They also showed a replay from the Piazza Liberta in Maranello where some thousands of true Tifosis watched the race on a big screen. After the incindent was a close up of Schummel-Schumi taking off his helmet and the whole Piazza booed him out. Well done, Tifosi, at least you showed some character today! -=-=- End quotes -=-=- All of this was in the "Comments on the race" thread, but I think it could use some more visibility. -- http://www.mat.uc.pt/~rps/f1/ an ex-tifoso since 95/11/13 .pt is Portugal| `Whom the gods love die young'-Menander (342-292 BC) Europe | Villeneuve 50-82, Toivonen 56-86, Senna 60-94